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讨论:苏俄特色建筑“赫鲁晓夫楼”那些不为人

作者: 文学驿站 发布时间: 2021年10月11日 15:32:39

Matej Games
Here in Slovakia we just insulated them and painted them with pastel colors.

在我们斯洛伐克,我们对其作了隔热化改造,并把它们漆成了柔和的颜色。


Same in Hungary

(回)匈牙利也是一样。


Same in Mongolia

(回)蒙古也是一样。


Same on moon

(回)月球上也是一样。


Life of Boris
never even known anyone ever who lived in Stalixa..

住过斯大林公寓的人,我连一个都不认识…


Real hard-working comrades dig Khrushchyovkas, Stalixas are for nerds

(回,楼主)真正努力的同志都去挖赫鲁晓夫楼了,斯大林公寓是为那些书呆子准备的。


lisanna t
In Estonia these houses are getting makeovers one after another. They are becoming energy efficent and grey dull facades are covered and insulated

在爱沙尼亚,这种房子正在一栋接一栋地被翻新。它们正在变得节能,灰暗的表面被覆盖了,而且做了隔热化改造。


in Bucharest, Romania there are mostly with 4 floors. thanks to EU funding to improve efficiency, this buildings get a make over

(回)在罗马尼亚的布加勒斯特,它们大都是四层的。多亏了欧盟的资助才提升了能效,这些楼也得到了改造。


In Russia theyd rather demolish khruschovkas and build new 20-story monstrosities. Because you cant make much money from renovating old buildings. Russian construction companies are only interested in making as much money from each m² as possible.

(回)在俄罗斯,他们宁愿拆除赫鲁晓夫楼,然后去建那种奇丑无比的20层高楼。因为翻新老楼是赚不到多少钱的。俄罗斯的建筑公司感兴趣的只有一件事:从每一平米中赚到尽可能多的钱。


same here in lithuania and latvia, with renovation they are pretty decent, actually in lithuania we have more of brezhnevka type of apartements built from bricks not blocks, they are even better after recornstruction

(回)在我们立陶宛和拉脱维亚也是一样,它们经过翻新还是相当体面的,事实上,在立陶宛,更多的是勃列日涅夫楼,是用砖块建成的而不是骨架板,经过改造后会更棒。


Juan Micó
I'm fascinated by how these buildings can be depressing and charming at the same time.

这些楼既致郁又富有魅力的特质实在是让我着迷。


Brutalist architecture .

(回)野兽派建筑。


I thought it was more Bauhaus.

(回)我倒觉得它更接近包豪斯风格。
(译注:所谓的“包豪斯风格”紧密结合了功能、技术、材料、结构与建筑艺术,大方而素雅)


Maybe playing to many dystopian games :-)

(回)也许能为很多反乌托邦游戏增色不少
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Marco Antônio
Coming from Brazil and seeing lots of people homeless begging for money on the streets, these buildings don't look bad. Real ugliness is lying over a cardboard piece at night...

我来自巴西,见过很多无家可归的人在大街上要钱,这种楼看上去还不赖。晚上躺在硬纸板上才是真正的丑陋…


I know. I want these buildings to become more mainstream in USA. We have a ridiculous amount of homeless. The worst building (as long as it's not going to fall down) is better than homelessness.

(回)我明白。我希望这种楼能在美国变得更主流。我们国家的流浪汉多到不像话。最烂的楼(只要不会塌)也好过无家可归。


They look like a prison, but what in Brazil doesn't?

(回)它们看着就像一座监狱,可是在巴西,又有什么不是监狱呢?


There's also an argument that, with a very cheap, but poorly insulated apartment, the money you saved in building, you are spending in heating anyway.
It's not as much the style that is a problem, as some said, the set up is quite agreeable, with large courtyards, many shops and other services close by, etc. A minimum of decoration could make a world of difference. However, you don't want buildings in cheap concrete, water seeping in and ruining the rebar, a central heating that only has 2 settings, hot and off... The problem with the Soviet building style is, it was too much a one-size-fits-all, even if it doesn't fit. The exact same building was built from the frozen tundra to the Black Sea resorts and the desert, without any consideration for local practicability, the presence or lack of building material, etc.
The current situation also shows how important it is to have a minimum of open space to yourself, even if it's just a small balcony.

(回)还有一种主张认为,对一栋造价极为低廉但隔热性能差的公寓来说,你在建造时省下的那些钱,无论如何都会花在取暖上。
问题并不在于风格,正如有些人所言,这里的设计安排还是很让人惬意的,有很大的院子,很多商店和其他服务设施就在附近,等等。最低限度的装饰能让世界变得不同。然而,你不会希望建筑物采用廉价的混凝土,水渗入并毁坏钢筋,集中采暖只有两个档位:取热和关闭…苏联建筑风格存在的问题在于太过一刀切了,哪怕它不适合。从冰封的苔原到黑海度假村,再到沙漠,造出来的都是一模一样的建筑,完全不考虑在当地的可行性,是否缺乏建材等问题。
目前的情况也表明,拥有一个属于自己的最低限度的开放空间是多么重要,哪怕只是一个小阳台。


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